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E9 - Taxes are Due! Fuuuu...

Valerie Garrison Season 1 Episode 9

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Agenda:

  • Emergency meeting (again)! Taxes are due we need our employer ID number from Iowa

Takeaways:

  • Kate to complete taxes
  • Matt taking a Lyft ASAP to the airport
  • Everyone delete the medical records from their phone
  • Thea to feed the office cat
  • Someone to re-register Meta Market in Iowa
Ben

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Kate

hey everybody. Okay. So the recording's on, um, let's try to make this one not too long. I know. I'm sorry. I had to like pull you guys away from things during like this holiday week, but, um, we just

Matt

no, it's okay. I was able to reschedule my flight. So beyond the.

Kate

Good.

Matt

Like this never happened. Assuming we get the sink done. So

Kate

Yeah. I mean, it's just, it should be easy. Right. We just need to find the EIN number of better market. That's it? I just, I would

Matt

like our federal tax ID,

Kate

Yeah.

Matt

must already have that.

Kate

exactly. We definitely have it somewhere. Definitely.

Matt

Well, hang on. I mean, that's, that's on, uh, like that's on my tax, uh, stuff. I got my first couple of checks as a contractor before it went through. So I've got the, the federal EIN right here. Is this, is this the one you're looking for?

Kate

oh, no, we're looking for Iowa. Iowa has a very specific tax code and they have a different EIN,

Matt

Oh yeah.

Kate

federal one, which. Anyway, sorry. But before we dig in, um, just to recap for anyone who ends up listening to this recording, uh, where Mehta market, um, for now very shortly that'll change, uh, we're a couch marketplace. We're looking to, you know, revolutionized trade in so many ways. Um, and today we are just holding a quick, probably very quick meeting to look very Iowa tests. Uh, I'm Kate I'm the chief of staff here. Um, I worked directly under John. Uh, John has told me that he explicitly does not want to know about anything having to do with finances, unless it just requires a signature. So naturally I didn't invite him.

Matt

Right. Uh, hi, I'm Matt, matt.yachts. I am the CTO here at metal market. And, um, I guess if it's on a Dropbox, I can probably help you find it. Otherwise I don't know what I'm doing at this meeting.

Kate

Yeah, we did use that once.

Matt

Oh, good.

Kate

Anybody. Sorry.

Matt

I'll actually, I'll start looking.

Thea

another Roba. Yeah, I'm also not sure, even though I, I mean, I do know that when Richard was here, I was well-known for being able to speak Richard. So I guess that is why you have brought me in today.

Kate

Yeah. Yeah. Richard probably had it at some point and. Oh, I should mention too, that Eric, it said he was going to join. Um, he said he was getting kind of patchy reception. Oh,

Eric

can you

Kate

are you there?

Eric

make.

Matt

oh, it's the conference thing. Hang on. Let

Eric

Yeah. Um, no bars, no bar.

Matt

Oh, there he is here. Oh, there is.

Kate

He's just, he's gone.

Matt

Uh, yeah, it looks like he dropped from the call. Okay. Well, I've got him set for auto answer. If he calls back

Kate

Okay. Great. Well, yeah, so we just need to find this number. Um, you know, we've used Google drive. We've used Dropbox. We've used paper. We wrote things on walls when Richard was here. Um, but the deadline is.

Thea

I reached out to Chelsea since she's in the Iowa office. Really, really helpful for this. Um, but she is testing out her bunker in a, uh, post atomic age kind of situation. So she is going to be unreachable this week. So we don't unfortunately have an eye ally down in the Iowa office.

Kate

God. Okay. I have a S I do feel like unfortunately, a backup option is going to be going straight to like the government themselves in Iowa and asking, um, what this is.

Matt

oh, yeah. That's um, that shouldn't be too well, uh, during a holiday, it's going to be a problem.

Thea

also, um, Richard really pissed off. Like most of the IRS representatives in the state of Iowa. Um,

Kate

no.

Thea

yeah, if I, I don't know if you remember, but, um, he had that really viral video of when he left. In fact, that's the reason why we decided to part ways with Richard after his, um, Viral stunt video that unfortunately resulted in the NSA being called to an IRS office.

Matt

Did not know that,

Eric

Hey, can y'all hear me?

Thea

Yeah.

Matt

Hey, there's air.

Kate

Hey,

Eric

was able to tether to an internet cafe here. Uh, sorry. Uh, sorry for the July.

Kate

are you on a dog?

Eric

Yeah. Yeah. There's um, there's an internet cafe on, on the, by George, behind me. I've been just, uh, staying, stay in your there's. There's a storm coming in. So we, we haven't been able to ship out yet,

Kate

okay. Cool. I

Eric

worry about it. Uh, I got, I got some time.

Kate

okay. Well, you know what we're looking for. You got my email about the Iowa.

Eric

Yeah. Did you check Google drive Dropbox and the walls yet?

Kate

Yeah, I mean, pretty much.

Matt

yeah, I've I went, I went through and did a second pass, uh, just now on, uh, both the, the managed Dropbox and the old, uh, Metamarkets, Gmail, Dropbox, uh, the private Google drive, the managed Google drive, the secret Google. And the accidental Google drive. Um, I

Eric

Oh, even the accidental one. Oh,

Matt

Yeah, no. Um, here's my worry. So a lot of stuff that Richard did was just on the walls, uh, walls that of course we send painted over. Um, and we have not had any luck with the forensics team. We hired to pull that paint off. Um, But we do have a lot of photos, uh, from Richard's office mate, um, mostly candid, uh, ones that were posted to their Instagram. Obviously the ones that had very clear financial details on them, we've had them taken down since, um, but we've been going through the ones that we can find and OCR and them. Um, unfortunately that project is not very far along. Um, so there's kind of a pile of photos I could share with y'all.

Eric

Well, how many are there? I can't, I can't be too much for us to go through, right?

Matt

The ones from the Instagram, there's a collection of 37.

Eric

Yeah. Oh, that's that's reasonable. We could, we could, we could just look to them. Right.

Matt

the, uh, I mean, I've kind of already been through those, um, as part of setting up the OCR project. So.

Eric

it.

Kate

are all the numbers labeled though. I feel like Richard often would just write numbers on the wall and we wouldn't know what they were.

Matt

that's a fair point. Um, I was mostly using the results of the OCR software to decide whether there was something relevant in there. So if it was just a series of, well, what does an EIN.

Kate

in numbers. There were just a bunch of numbers. Okay.

Matt

Yeah. Oh, actually, um, numbers are one of the easiest things to OCR. It's the first thing that they ever trained, optical character recognition to do cool stuff. If you ever want to look up the history of machine learning, um, okay.

Kate

okay. Well look, so

Matt

How many digits

Kate

yeah, let's Google. How many digits are an

Matt

in an Iowa AI yet? Um, let's see. State employer identification number is six, a six digit number with a three digit location code. Okay. But is that code also a number?

Eric

well, that, that location code has to be from where we set our office up. So we should be able to find, figure that part.

Kate

Um, okay. But remember, we didn't always start into Moines. There was that unincorporated county in Iowa that we thought would be better for, um,

Eric

Yup.

Kate

you know, storage purposes and

Thea

Are you talking about, are you talking about Elkhorn?

Kate

Elkhorn. Yeah. I think that's what we call.

Thea

Yeah,

Kate

So maybe we just never got issued a tax ID number because we were incorporated in an unincorporated area.

Matt

oh, that's not great. Um, although,

Thea

I think

Matt

it sounds like you all remember where it was incorporated, so we could probably call their office.

Eric

they don't have an office

Thea

Yeah. I mean,

Matt

do you, can you incorporate a corporation in an unincorporated city? I don't think so.

Eric

Well, it happened. So.

Thea

yeah, it definitely happened. Um, we were very secretive about moving into Iowa because. Tensions, as I mentioned between Richard and people in Iowa. Um, so we never let Richard know where the office was located. Um,

Matt

but,

Eric

good idea.

Matt

but

Thea

yeah, I

Matt

was also the one who filed. He filed the registration for the business without knowing that well, then if Richard didn't know, then that must mean someone else did the business.

Kate

I remember now we had the, the coding system where everything related to Iowa, we had like a, you know, a kind of puzzle code to scramble all the numbers in a certain way. He wouldn't actually be able to, you know, divulge any information about our Iowa operations. We just have to find the, uh, the key,

Thea

The cipher. Yeah, we had a simple cipher.

Matt

We have to find both the cipher and the ciphertext. I mean, if we don't know which of these seemingly random piles of numbers on the wall represents our Iowa EIN, then even with the key, we won't be able to, we can't just like decrypt a wall of a photograph. Oh boy. Um, are we sure we don't have any contact in that office from before Richard Stein maybe, or. The state

Eric

a second. Wait, wait. Remember Jen, when she was traveling to Iowa, she got violently ill. Remember that?

Thea

yeah, I do. I do.

Eric

we, do we have the health insurance documentation for when we sent her to the ER

Thea

Oh, that is a great, great question.

Kate

we're really not supposed to be looking at employee health records. It's like

Matt

we don't necessarily need to

Eric

we had to pay, right? Yeah, We just had to pay our part of the coverage. Right.

Matt

yeah. So whoever our healthcare provider in the state of Iowa is like, we've got a policy with them. They would register our employee ID number, or that's a great, uh, that's great.

Eric

corn health.org?

Kate

I don't, I don't know. Where did you find that information?

Thea

Wait, I'm sorry. That's our healthcare provider is Korn health.org.

Eric

well, we got a local provider because we were still setting up in, in different, uh, different places. And, you know, we didn't have, we didn't have enough employees to get a good rate with the national provider. So yeah.

Kate

Right?

Eric

the time that Jen was sent to the ER, it was, she was covered by Korn health.

Matt

I just want to, before anybody else goes, do not go to corn health.com.

Eric

It's dot org. Yes.

Matt

you. Thank you. Yeah. Okay. Uh, do not. Um, great. Okay. this whole thing is just a landing page to a phone number.

Eric

ticket they get bought maybe.

Kate

No.

Eric

phone number.

Kate

no, that's, I mean, there are a healthcare provider. That's kind of the level of technology they're at

Matt

well,

Kate

here. Let me see if it's, it's something we can text. Maybe it's like a, some type of mobile number. Um, I'll just shoot them a message and say,

Eric

I I'd call, but I, I can't.

Kate

Yeah, you shouldn't call anyone from the dock, Eric.

Matt

Eric. How long are you going to be out on the ocean? Is this like a day trip or are you

Eric

uh, yeah, I'll be out there for six, seven days depending on, uh, whether yeah.

Matt

pretty good. Are you fishing or just, I'm just seeing the sites.

Eric

Uh, we'll do a little fishing and we'll do a little, a little scuba, a little diving, um,

Matt

that's great. Cathy. I've I forgot. Weren't you on a. Schedule we'll be on a retreat right now.

Thea

yes, I was scheduled to be on a retreat. Um, but unfortunately I gave Kate my emergency contact line, uh, to the retreat center. Um, as a place of trust, um, you know, um, but I am learning how to be more compassionate. And so here I am,

Kate

Yes. Um,

Thea

to get the ninth Kali chakra for the Dalai Lama himself, but I am here in the stead.

Kate

and helping us, you are, we are very thankful. Um, corn health is, has texted me back.

Matt

Oh, great.

Kate

Yeah. Um, they sent me like all of Jen's files. They just texted me. Pictures of pretty much all of her medical records?

Matt

Wow. that cannot be HIPAA compliant.

Eric

And also, sorry, I, from what I heard from Jen or some,

Matt

Oh no, there's not photos. And x-rays in there. Are there. Oh.

Kate

there are definitely photos. Um, yeah, I D I don't think I realized the extent to which her injuries were. Um, but I might buy her also a couch for.

Eric

yeah.

Thea

do you mind uploading those to the pain and sorrow Google drive? Uh, the creative team keeps.

Kate

I really think that's even more of a HIPAA violation that hadn't has already happened.

Thea

I'm sorry, I just, uh, I just feel like, you know, I'm trying to build empathy with my team and that would really help to let people see how the sausage is made and, you know, the people who really could put themselves on the line for our organization.

Eric

I mean, Kate you're already seeing the images. Maybe you could just do like a reaction video to the

Thea

Yes. That would be really great.

Eric

upload.

Thea

Or just describe them in vivid detail. It could be a good storytelling exercise for you.

Kate

Okay. Okay.

Eric

Anyway, is, are there, are there any, any indications of the,

Matt

yeah.

Eric

state EIN.

Matt

I just got a, a, a text that, that I could get on an earlier flight. So maybe we could look for the EIN first.

Kate

sure. Sure. Okay. So, um, I do see a number on here, which I think is close. Uh, It, the problem is it's sort of handwritten. Um, I guess they don't use any sort of computer records and it's, you know, a doctor's handwriting. So let me just go through them, let me list them out and then we'll figure it out together.

Matt

Sure.

Kate

The first one is either a C E B or three.

Matt

Wow. That's a lot of possibilities. Okay.

Kate

The second one is either an L I or, or dash, you know, like how you have

Matt

Wow. I really thought you were going to say a one. Um, okay. A

Kate

No, it's definitely not a one.

Matt

Okay.

Kate

There's a little arrow that someone pointed to it in a rope, not

Eric

Not a one. Oh,

Matt

Oh, wow.

Kate

Um, Okay, the next one is either a oh, or a zero or an E or a B.

Thea

Okay. Um, Kate, you said that, I mean, I know that, um, there are multiple medical records there. Is there any way that we could compare them together to, to maybe get some clues

Kate

Ooh. Yeah. Okay. Uh, I'm just going to delete the ones that have the pictures in them. Um, I'm going to, there was actually four pages that each have the medical record written on them. So the EIN number, I mean,

Thea

Has anybody fed the office cat? Cause this cat is going nuts.

Matt

no, no. I thought we had building staff to do that.

Kate

yeah.

Thea

I don't know. I mean, Kate.

Kate

for the holidays?

Matt

Oh, yikes.

Thea

Okay.

Kate

Got the cat's been neglected.

Thea

Okay. I'm I'm it's all right. I'll make sure I feed her before I leave. Yeah.

Eric

you're going to use the cat food in the refrigerator, right?

Thea

Yeah, of course. Um,

Kate

cat food at the refrigerator.

Thea

yeah.

Kate

Is it the things that look kind of like little jerky balls?

Eric

Yeah,

Thea

They're in the, they're in the little, like a glass Mason jars.

Matt

they're specially made

Eric

really nice.

Thea

Yeah.

Kate

been giving those to guests. I won't do that anymore. Um, okay.

Matt

it's technically food grade.

Kate

Okay.

Eric

Th the numbers, the numbers.

Kate

The numbers, I'm texting you all each a different image. Okay. We're just going to go through together. And then like at the same time, we'll say the number or letter we think each one is. And then, you know, if we come to a majority without influencing each other, you know, then that's probably what it is. Right.

Matt

Okay. I

Kate

already gone through the first three. Did everyone get their dog?

Thea

oh God.

Matt

Um,

Eric

a little low Rez on two G.

Thea

you included the photo in this one and

Eric

Oh, yep.

Thea

why we can't share that with the larger team. Oh, wow.

Kate

can put right to that.

Thea

I didn't even know a bone could break like that.

Eric

Oh my

Kate

Oh, Jen has a special types of bones. Okay. Just. Let's start with the fourth

Eric

numbers. Yes.

Kate

the numbers or letters. We don't know what they are. Okay. So I've done the first three, everyone identify your fourth and then we'll just say what we think it is at the same time. Mm

Matt

to drop this into a captcha solver

Eric

Oh, no.

Matt

because those are great at reading all kinds of squiggly letters and numbers.

Kate

Okay. This is like our own personal capture sulfur. Um, Is everyone ready?

Thea

Yes.

Matt

Okay. Yes.

Kate

3, 2, 1 Z.

Thea

Okay.

Matt

Okay. I just, do you just want to back up, um, the Iowa state documentation says that the number we're looking for is six.

Eric

yeah. Oh, it says

Matt

dash followed by three digits. Yeah. So now we're looking for numbers.

Eric

Okay. All right.

Matt

Hopefully that changes some things.

Kate

I

Thea

I,

Kate

so you look like twos. I'm going to say.

Thea

I'm gonna say a nine.

Matt

okay. So we've got two fours, a nine and a two at nines and fours look real close. Would you be willing to be swayed towards.

Thea

Yeah. I could be swayed for.

Kate

I can't believe this is how we're doing this guys. We get this number wrong. We have so many penalties. Uh,

Eric

Can we like check it. So like a verification site,

Matt

I mean,

Eric

there's gotta be only like

Matt

Yeah. Every, every state maintains a business registry and you can usually look up an employer by their, uh, EIN. So we can, we can go through this process. We'll come up with a list of probably no more than a dozen or two potentials, and we can just punch them in and see which one is actually us.

Kate

okay. Awesome. Awesome. Okay. Let's just do the others quickly. So we've got the fourth one. Let's do the fifth one, uh, 3, 2, 1 0, Calvin.

Thea

I'm sorry. I'm pretty sure this is in the infinity sign.

Kate

Number.

Thea

I know. I'm just saying what I've seen. Okay. I'm pretty sure it's either an omega or an Infiniti.

Kate

Oh my God.

Thea

It's not a number,

Eric

Okay, so three or three or five then,

Thea

both of those. I mean, it's like two circles like this together.

Kate

We know what that looks like.

Thea

I just don't know what other number this looks like.

Matt

I'm going to yet, I'm going to write that

Thea

Oh, to eight, like this, like.

Eric

Alright, one more, one more.

Kate

Okay, one more time with the first ones. Okay. 3, 2, 1.

Thea

I said, I said, too, it's a real number then I'm still not convinced. I'm not convinced. The last number was not an infinity side.

Matt

Okay.

Kate

let's just

Thea

maybe they're progressive in the Iowa.

Eric

and you're just countable and uncountable infinities, and they're in there, their databases.

Thea

I don't know, Richard was always trying to move them farther to the left, you know, maybe succeeded at a small.

Eric

Okay.

Matt

Okay. Let's see I'm on iowa.gov. Um, what's do business entities and we're going to do a search by business number. Um, great. So I'll just start typing these in. I'm going to guess that's a three, a one, a zero four. We'll start with three there. Uh, one. Okay. Um, Nope. That's, that's not it. Uh, it's an inactive business. As of 2005,

Kate

What's his name.

Matt

um, uh, uh, via to auto LLC.

Kate

Okay.

Matt

That's, uh, that's what that messed on us. Okay. So, um, all right. If we like the three, um, I'm still just collapsing the LDI and the dash. Those have to be a one, a zero. So then next, next change would be a seven.

Kate

not a one

Matt

Yeah. I don't know.

Kate

a number.

Matt

should we just take it out if we take that out? We still, oh yeah, we have. How did we get to seven digits? We have seven digits out

Eric

Whoa.

Matt

out of an initial six

Thea

Maybe the infinity was choose

Eric

two zeroes.

Matt

two zeros. Okay. So then that gives us zero, zero. Now that's still, now, now we're just way off.

Kate

just add

Matt

But if I put the one back.

Eric

the, the one, uh, the one is a, is an errant stroke. It's a, not a one. It ignore it.

Matt

I put it back then that gets us to nine digits.

Eric

Oh,

Kate

Try it. I don't know. Just try

Matt

let's see what we got. All right. Um,

Eric

We should do an escape room

Matt

oh wow. They're giving me a capture. Uh, and then an unusually large number of page visits has been detected.

Eric

Sure. Well, that's fair.

Kate

don't tell me if the captured is wet nine numbers or something.

Matt

oh, wow. They're making me do it a second time. Okay. Um,

Eric

have to find the, the boats in the, in the picture?

Matt

wow. Um, uh, no, I just keep clicking the I'm not a robot button and continue and they keep sending me back. I,

Kate

what if we use these pictures as our capture in our product?

Matt

Jen's medical.

Kate

No, no pictures of the pictures of the numbers,

Matt

Oh, gosh, I mean, we could do that, but that would be so many people that would have to sign up in order to solve them.

Kate

We're having kind of a big new year's rush. Yeah.

Matt

All right. Let me open this in

Thea

Particularly they would be identifying. So like where's the bone in the photo.

Eric

the numbers not the,

Kate

We're not sending medical pictures as the cap shot. It's the picture of the handwritten numbers

Eric

we do need a country.

Thea

Oh yeah.

Kate

Oh, yeah. Cause I guess encapture, you need to know if they did it right. Uh, well, Matt, how long do you think it'll take you to punch in the options we've come up with so far.

Matt

I mean, it really depends on when and for how long the website lets me back on. Let me see if I can do an incognito window.

Eric

oh, nice. It's a government site. It's probably not.

Matt

Yeah, probably not too sophisticated. Um, I can't I drag this window. Um,

Kate

Wait, does it say copyright 2004 on the bottom of this website? Oh God.

Matt

Oh, yeah, it sure does. Wait, hang on. Um, y'all were going to feel really stupid. Uh, the business entity search page also has a search by name.

Kate

I know our name,

Eric

Oh, wow.

Matt

So let's just met at Marquette.

Kate

Metta Metta, mark. It. You might want to add in,

Matt

Oh, no results.

Kate

Yeah. Yeah. So that probably

Thea

it might've been, it might've been the cipher.

Kate

Yeah.

Matt

The what? Oh, the cipher to keep Richard from.

Kate

Yeah. Ciphered our name?

Thea

I'm sorry, I'm just laughing. Cause I've just been here so long. Oh, all. Um, no Richard, Dave, see, I'm a Richard speaker. Um, yeah, Richard did have a cipher that he use edits possible. Sometimes Richard got some things Crossy wise that he used the cipher name instead of the real name. I don't remember the cipher, but I do know the last thing Richard said to Chelsea is this isn't a wild goose chase. If you go to the place where you can find it, finally, you see your own face.

Matt

okay. So like a mirror

Thea

Maybe that's it. The ciphers mirror.

Kate

Mirror, maybe it's you're supposed to mirror.

Matt

R a M E T a M tech rum atom. I'm going to be very upset if this is the bid. There. There it is.

Eric

my God.

Thea

Oh, we did it.

Matt

There it is. Okay. Wait, let's just, uh, here, let me put it on the tablet and pass this around. Can, can y'all verify, is that the address where we registered the company? Is this us.

Thea

Yeah, that's us.

Matt

Okay, well that we're going to, we're going to have to file another DBA. Uh, so they know we're doing business as Metro market, but it's great that we found ourselves.

Kate

well, I was gonna say, I mean, I know we're going to talk about like our name change next time, but have we thought about tech from Adam?

Eric

No.

Matt

Yeah, I don't, I don't think it works tech room atom. I mean, how. I don't know, you know, sounds like a thing for Kathy and her team. Um,

Eric

And let me, let me, let me think on it.

Matt

I'm just going to say yes to this rebooking and, um, yes, to this lift and I'm going to get back on our way, so good job

Kate

get outta here. I'll hold down the Fort in the office.

Eric

Okay.

Matt

Kate. You're not going on vacation.

Eric

Yeah. What

Kate

Now it's like being alone here. It's like a mini vacation. It's like a state case.

Matt

hang on. I distinctly remember you putting vacation on your to-do list.

Thea

Yeah. And, and,

Kate

Yeah. I have no meetings today. It's just me and the office and my vacation to do list.

Thea

and why hasn't the captain?

Kate

I forgot to move that from the office to do a list of the vacation, to do

Matt

kind of mean.

Kate

Okay. I'm sorry about that.

Matt

the key take care of yourself. Okay. Please take some time off.

Thea

W we talked about self care. You should take some time for self.

Eric

Good to take a break.

Matt

oh, okay.

Kate

Eric's gone.

Matt

Yeah. We'll just

Kate

all right, well, we're, we're good. Just, uh, now I have that number. I'll do the rest of the Texas. Um, and. See you all next week.

Matt

Okay, everybody take care.

Kate

I

Ben

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