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E6 - Screaming Room Training (w/ Katie Overbey)

• Valerie Garrison • Season 1 • Episode 6

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Agenda:

  • Prep for screaming room training with Lindsay, who is here from Bhutan


Takeaways:

  • Eric to make extra carpet square for John
  • Kate to share with Lindsay template for how to have 30 people share one toilet
  • Everyone to send out the experience from the warm up (WITHOUT specific details) to their teams to encourage participation
  • Listen to Katie Overbey's podcast, Teach Me Something Good, which can be found at teachme.show
Ben:

welcome to this startup is being recorded. This recording is improvised fiction. Similarities between it and the real world are entirely intentional. Now enjoy the recording.

Kate:

Okay. And the recording is on, um, Lindsey. Uh, so glad to have you here. Um, I'm just going to do a quick, uh, Brief, basically for the people who might listen to this recording, we record all of our meetings here at Metta market, just for our radical transparency and radical honesty company cultures. Um, but for any new employees or for folks who might be listening, um, John, especially, I hope listens to this. It's essential that we get the screaming room training brief really locked down. We are going to be talking about the couple of day long training happening later this week with all employees, all employees are required to join for our screaming room. Um, we are of course, Mehta market. We're a couch market place startup. Uh, our goal is to give everyone a more comfortable seat at the table and transform trade. So. Uh, yeah, actually let's do a quick intro to, um, I'll start. I'm Kate Blanchet. I'm the chief of staff I work directly with slash for John, our CEO, and yeah, just super excited to get this training brief done. Um, Califia maybe you want to go next.

Thea:

Uh, Kathy and not a Rova. I am the chief creatives are, uh, for the company. And I'll just apologize about my general state of mind, Lindsey and I had a private practice before this, and it just brought up a lot of emotions about being a mother who's about to let her. Baby flesh of her flesh go out into the world and in that real sense of grief.

Lindsay:

It's just.

Thea:

thank you all for coming today.

Kate:

Okay. Uh, let's go with Matt.

Matt:

Uh, sure. Yeah. Hi, I'm matt.yachts. That's also my website where you can find out more about me. I'm the CTO here at Metta market, and I've worked with, uh, John on several different projects, uh, some good, some bad. And, um, and here we are. And, uh, I, I, I don't know. It doesn't look like everyone got the same memo. I did. I, I wore loose clothes for this. Maybe that was for the actual training and not for the, this pre.

Lindsay:

Yes. Um, but I, the dedication is, is very appreciated.

Eric:

awesome. And, uh, yeah, I'm uh, Eric joy Carter, uh, chief product officer here at Metro market. Uh, super excited for this. Day. It's going to be a great day. Um, lot, a lot, a lot of big voices here and I can't wait to see them unleashed.

Kate:

Yeah. And enhancements and safety.

Eric:

Yes.

Kate:

Yeah. Uh, Lindsay, do you mind introducing yourself?

Lindsay:

Absolutely. Yes. Um, as you all know, um, my name is Lindsay. Uh, my given name is Smith, but pardon? Moving to Bhutan, I took the given name, Magna, which a local, uh, told me meant join. Um, and so that is what I go by now. Um, I've spent a couple of years in Bhutan, you know, learning the ways of happiness, um, and, and have really made happiness my job and go, um, and, uh, calcium. And a happiness retreat. Um, and since then I've really have really delved into the world of screaming and the importance of screaming for a balanced. Psyche and a happier life. And I'm just, I, the energy in this room is, is incredible. Um, Kelsey had told me how wonderful you all are and, and it cannot be understated. I am just so thrilled to begin this training with you all.

Thea:

I told her how wonderful you all are from like a surface level that I know all of. Because as I must remind you, we are not friends and I cannot afford to add you to my social network.

Lindsay:

Yes. Yes.

Kate:

right. Okay. That was a good point of

Eric:

Cool.

Kate:

It, you know, it's so funny that your new last name has joy in it because that's like Eric's middle name.

Lindsay:

I know. I,

Eric:

and we both legally changed our names. That's that's a pretty amazing connection.

Lindsay:

yeah. It's I think this is really fate. This feels like.

Eric:

Yeah. It was a real hassle to it. Did it take you like six months to get the change through?

Lindsay:

Well, um, you know, I, I don't really prescribe to, you know, formal government systems. Um, I really manifested the change in my last name and, and decided that it would be, and, and it was.

Kate:

okay. So, but, but all that paperwork we sent you about, like, you know, visa information and Jaime and country that, that all got got done. Right.

Lindsay:

Yes. Um, more or less, um, I was allowed in, I was allowed into the country, so I believe we are Okay.

Kate:

Okay. Well, you're here now, so let's focus on what we need to focus on today. Um, yeah. So can you maybe explain a little more with this brief is about what

Lindsay:

Yes. Yes. So, um, I don't know how much Kathy has, um, informed you all about what, what a scream room training entails. Okay. That's, that's wonderful. I think, you know, going in as a blank slate, um, is really just a beautiful thing. Um, so these trainings, they are. They are about safety, but they're also about the spiritual experience and the, the optimization of as a screen room experience, um, this training will be approximately 48 to 72 hours. Um, sleep will be very minimal and ideally, uh, everyone will, will co-exist in the same room for that entire time span.

Kate:

wait, everyone, everyone,

Lindsay:

F everyone. Yes, it is, is really,

Kate:

almost 30 people.

Lindsay:

oh, perfection. You know, the more people, the more energy there is, and it just really, oh, just everyone, all in that space, intermingling together. It is, it is just going to be wonderful.

Eric:

Let's this room is. Okay, now please go ahead. Califia

Thea:

Oh, no, I was just gonna say the last training group training that I did with Lindsey. Um, we had 12 people and we did the entire training in a wheelbarrow and it was experience

Lindsay:

it was,

Kate:

Do you mean with the wheelbarrow?

Lindsay:

oh, no. in in, in the wheelbarrow.

Thea:

took a lot of balancing and trust to be able to keep it, you know, on the single wheel. But, um, and that, that is a master class. I would not recommend trying to

Lindsay:

Um, no, no, no, no,

Thea:

do something like that

Lindsay:

no, absolutely not. Um,

Matt:

not clear on how the physics of that worked, where you stacked on top of one.

Lindsay:

yes.

Thea:

people standing, some people laying down. So have you ever played the game that I used to play as a child called Jenga?

Lindsay:

Oh,

Matt:

Yeah, of course.

Thea:

So imagine like a Jenga board, but with human bodies and intertwining souls.

Kate:

oh, okay.

Lindsay:

the week.

Matt:

we're not

Kate:

We're not doing

Lindsay:

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh goodness. No, no. Yes.

Thea:

I mean, Lindsey, I don't want to speak for you. You're obviously the trainer here, but I mean, that would take far more spiritual capacity

Lindsay:

much, so much.

Thea:

have at this stage.

Lindsay:

Yes, absolutely

Kate:

of spiritual. I mean, I just, anyway, there's lots of HR reasons why I don't think we should do that, but

Eric:

Yeah, I had, I, I read the email and I had somebody in the production office get us each individual, two foot by three foot carpet squares made from our couch material to designate our area in the room. It leaves about five square feet of room left to maneuver

Lindsay:

That is so incredible. And, you know, I think, um, I'm so glad that you, you sought to incorporate some of your products into the training session. Um, uh, I will say that by about the end of the 24 hours, those individual spaces will no longer be needed. Um, you know, these rituals it's very important to, to really co-mingle in this space and, um, you know, feed off the energy of the room. Uh, nothing like the wheelbarrow. Are you all familiar with acro acrobatic yoga? Uh, it's a very complex and, and quite traditional practice, really. Um, and so

Kate:

person lays down, puts her feet up in the air and the other person balances on their pelvis, basically on their leg.

Lindsay:

I said, a, uh, uh, a crude description of, of a truly

Kate:

I mean, I I'm just,

Matt:

sounded accurate to me. I mean, it was.

Lindsay:

it's

Kate:

I just want to be clear that like, things like co-mingling and feeding off of each other and pelvic touching are really not, uh, I think, I don't know. I don't think we can do that.

Lindsay:

I don't, I don't believe I mentioned pelvic touching. Um, but if you would like that, that is generally a more advanced option, but we can, we, we can, if you would, like,

Thea:

Lindsey. We talked about this in our obsession, and I think Kate really Springs from a lack of connection to the mother and maternal, which often massive in which often means that she becomes fixated on the pelvic area as use for only pleasure and not for creativity and

Matt:

folks. I left my ring tone on I'm just gonna, I'll be right back.

Lindsay:

Oh good. Oh

Kate:

oh my God. I just think we should not talk about my mother or lack of mother or my other mother in meetings anymore. Um, I really feel like Lindsay worked. We're cutting you off. Maybe just like couple of steps. What do we need really need to know?

Lindsay:

Okay, this, I will say that your relationship with your mother is critical to the screen room training, but we can revisit it if you would

Matt:

sorry about that. Uh, folks, um,

Kate:

Everything.

Matt:

word from John that he, uh, he intends to join us for, for the.

Thea:

Oh, wonderful.

Matt:

I don't, I don't know if that's going to like what that's going to do for our capacity in the room.

Lindsay:

I think only good things. Who, who is this? John again?

Thea:

He is our CEO. He has such a

Lindsay:

Oh, incredible.

Thea:

think is. You know, really, really needed in this training.

Lindsay:

I'm so this is going to be incredible.

Matt:

I apologize for having to step away. Maybe I, uh, I missed this, but, um, I have a couple of critical questions about being, uh, locked in a room together for

Lindsay:

Yes. Yes.

Matt:

are we doing about bathroom?

Lindsay:

Uh, yes. Um, so as you all are beginners, uh, we will designate a corner. Um, you know, when you're at a more advanced stage, you actually can just clear your mind of all of those needs, but we won't be at that place at this, at this stage, we will provide a small space, usually some sort of, oh yes. In the room. Absolutely.

Eric:

I will, I won't put a carpet square in that corner.

Lindsay:

Please

Thea:

if you can put like, um, sand down, you know, it has kind of. I think of it almost like a, a human litter box.

Eric:

I got that from the sand. Yeah. Um, yeah, we have some packing material from, from filling some of the couch

Thea:

Perfect.

Lindsay:

perfect.

Kate:

I'm just concerned because we've already had leaking problems that the biotech startup below us said that we've actually ruined several of their experiments when we just build water. So, um,

Thea:

um, and it might just be because I'm hypersensitive right now after our work Lindsey, but I'm, I'm experiencing a lot of tension in this room. And I just want to say, you know, if we want to lean into creature comforts, we're not going to get the same success. But if we're, if that's what we need to engage, we can meet people where they are.

Lindsay:

Absolutely. Absolutely. Um,

Kate:

I think a working toilet sounds like a nice creature comfort.

Matt:

just bathroom breaks. I mean, we've got great facilities here, uh, on like every floor. So we could just let people go to the.

Lindsay:

Okay. Um, yes, absolutely. I, you know, this is your experience and it is important to me that you all, you know, are getting what you can out of it.

Matt:

kind of a deal breaker for me. I think I would, I think I need to be able to have access to a restroom and PR private.

Lindsay:

Sad for me to hear, but I understand that, uh, those interruptions may be necessary for you. Well,

Kate:

Yeah, I mean, I will say if we need to come up with a system so that 30 people share one toilet. I've done that before I have some templates I could use. So, um, we, I could definitely chat with you about maybe some compromises here.

Lindsay:

you know, I think that that may actually work. That is a very enlightened idea. Kate. Thank you. Thank you for that. We can continue on, um, discussing some more of the important logistics for the training. Um, earlier I believe Matt mentioned loose clothing. Absolutely. A must. Um, there'll be a significant amount of movement, contortion, some light acrobatics, um, and. And it will be very crucial that everyone has a full, full range of motion.

Kate:

I don't make the room has space for that.

Lindsay:

Oh, you would be surprised you would be absolutely surprised. Um, the wheelbarrow. Uh, that calcium mentioned was maybe one of our most beautiful trainings, but you know, these scream room trainings, they're all about, uh, you know, really encompassing the physical space and truly the smaller and more crowded the better. Um, I think one of my most favorite is conducting a, we conducted a full training in a subway car, um, with strangers. In credible. Incredible.

Kate:

Okay, well, That actually does remind me, um, a few employees have been a little hesitant. So I was wondering if you had some like customer testimonials or, you know, some type of overview, like a one pager or something that we could send out to.

Lindsay:

Absolutely. Um, so I maintain a WordPress site called lens. Lindsay loves Butan. Um, it is where I record all of my, my yes, uh, dot net, um, is a free, it is a WordPress site. Um, and I believe paying for the internet is a crime really. But yes. So I, I maintain this blog where I discuss my work in Bhutan, um, and my pursuits of happiness and I discuss the scream room and the training. Um, in-depth I believe actually the wheelchair or the. Wheelbarrow. Sorry. There was also a wheelchair training. Um, the wheel Barrow training is described on the blog as well.

Eric:

sorry. And I dunno if I'm on the right site, but I just there's there there's a bunch of posts, but they're all just what look like audio wave forms, but they're not like files you can click on and listen to the

Lindsay:

Oh, oh, um, oh goodness. I, um, yes, I keep an audio diary. Um, and I, you know, I can look for the files and try to provide some if,

Eric:

so you do have the files. Okay.

Lindsay:

um, potentially I I'll, I'll have to look and see, um,

Eric:

you have like some bullet points though? Like we could send around and slack beforehand.

Thea:

I totally understand the apprehension. And if we do need the testimonial, I do have a one-woman show based on my screaming experience that I'm happy to perform in some public way. Um, just to make people feel more comfortable with this experience and understand the journey that we're going through.

Lindsay:

um,

Kate:

Well, it's sorry. It's just, it's the same employees who had hesitation around the screaming room that were the same ones that actually filed the complaints around your last one woman show. So I'm not sure that that format is the best for that. They're on Matt's team, not to point fingers,

Matt:

Hey. Um, yeah. And, um, I, I would like to clear the air here. Um, I'm one of those people. I, I definitely, in my mind, I had a very different, uh, I guess, experience about what this training would entail mostly. to protect your voice, uh, when you're using it at high volume. Um,

Kate:

right.

Matt:

I'm hearing a lot about w w what I'm going to describe as, um, suffering, but I'm not hearing how this will help train us to make better use of the screening.

Thea:

Um, Matt, if I may, um, this is based on very deep Buddhist values and the first principle of Buddhism is life is suffering. Um, and it's only through recognizing that suffering that we're able to really achieve happiness. Uh, I'll remind you, that's the core tenant of the creative team. And I get the sense that we might be on odds here about the process in which we all achieve joy in our lives.

Matt:

listen, I I'm no stranger to suffering in order to achieve bodily harmony to improve one's fitness. Uh, I use the screaming. When I, when I reserve it primarily for Peloton and Alex Tucson's, uh, core and strength, training classes, they're brutal. I mean, there's no part of you afterwards that doesn't feel burned out and sore and embracing. That is what makes Alex such a joy to have as an instructor. Um,

Thea:

Matt. I feel like you just gave us just such a fruitful little seed right there. And I think you understand the work we're doing here are ready. Like you understand the pain and the suffering that you are getting in the end, the satisfaction that you're getting, all that screaming is doing is doing that sonically. It's

Lindsay:

it's true.

Thea:

really being able. Yes, you know, through, through your vocal cords through sound. I'm sorry, Lindsay, I don't mean to

Lindsay:

Oh, no.

Thea:

I'm just trying to translate between our two worlds because sometimes that, that can be difficult, you know? Um,

Lindsay:

Yes. I, I, I deeply appreciate that. Califia and, and Matt, I, I think you for, for offering up those words and, you know, I just, I would like to give you a gift, um, that I was given my first year in Butan, a gift of. If you will. Uh, so Magna go long miss shoe. It was given to me when I was first in Bhutan and was working through, um, some, some deep emotional issues. Um, I was really struggling with, with. You know, the placement of the furniture and my new apartment. It was, it was a very trying time. And I was seeking a lot of input and I was gifted this phrase, um, that roughly translates to, um, when there are too many carpenters, the door can not be erected. And I think that this is an important phrase for you. All right now. Um,

Kate:

okay. Can you, sorry, can you say it again? I just missed it

Lindsay:

Yes, when there are too many carpenters, the door cannot be erected. Um, it is much more beautiful in the song, high language of Butan, but the crude translation will work here. And I think that this is valuable in this situation to say, you know, I understand the hesitancy CALSEIA did warn me. That some members of your company may be resistant to the training methods.

Matt:

Okay. I'm I'm willing to, to move forward. I'm. As I said, in my earlier emails, I'm not going to. Require this of my teams. Um, I'm actually already getting several requests for people to be on call, uh, overnight during these nights so that they can, uh, answer when servers go down or when we have other errors that are causing issues for customers, uh, something they usually really strongly avoid. Um, and they're, they seem to be using it as a way to get out of this. And frankly, I'm, I'm not going to stop them, but I, I am with. To sort of step back and see how this.

Kate:

Okay.

Thea:

I, I deeply appreciate that. Um, I'm sorry, Kate. I didn't mean to disrupt your voice.

Kate:

it's. Okay. I was just trying to. uh, communicate. Um, I, we only have like 10 minutes left, so maybe just an idea, but Lindsay, maybe you could like walk us through a small exercise and maybe if we like experienced this magical suffering,

Lindsay:

Yes,

Kate:

to better translate it to our teams.

Lindsay:

fabulous. Fabulous. I think this was a fabulous idea. Okay. So I think what we're going to do is we're just going to go through, you know, one of our most basic warmups. Um, so I want everyone to sort of sit back in your chair comfortably and close your eyes for just a moment.

Matt:

And sorry, we're we're not actually going to scream in here. Right?

Lindsay:

Oh good.

Matt:

is next to a lot of people where it's not rated for, for

Lindsay:

goodness. Goodness. No, I, I, with a group, this, this, um, untrained eye, we would never even get to screaming exercises until maybe the 48 hour mark. Um, we,

Matt:

okay.

Lindsay:

there's a lot of prep work that goes into. Into the screaming training. Okay. I want everyone to close their eye. I want you to just empty your minds for a moment. I want you to picture pictures of loudest thing that you know of. want you to picture the sound truly, truly embodying. Uh, beautiful. And if you need to move or stretch into Nate, um, again, I re I request that we all refrain from screaming, but other intonation may be appropriate. Now think, and let this loud sound truly fully occupy your mind and your body. Feel it. Let it be the only thing that you can hear and now come to arrest. Beautiful. You, you may open your eyes. I, I would like to hear about your experiences. I think I would like healthier to, um, to start off. Um, Kathy

Thea:

Yeah, of course. Um, the sound that I heard was the screaming of my inner child, having a tantrum, wanting to be free. And the moment the training ended, I was transported to a place of nothing. Where I was nothing. The room was nothing. This company was nothing, everything was nothing. And I just breathe that in before coming back into a world of substance.

Lindsay:

Kathy or you are an absolute inspiration. Thank you for sharing. Um,

Thea:

you, Vinci.

Lindsay:

Eric, I saw you also having a. Uh, spiritual moment. Would you care to share the sound that you thought of?

Eric:

Yeah, it was, it was, it was very strange. I was transported forward to March of next year.

Lindsay:

Wow.

Eric:

And I was giving the keynote address at the 19th annual Midwest supply chain management conference in St. Louis.

Lindsay:

This is

Eric:

And it was my voice that was resonating in, in the hall talking about what we're doing here. And I just felt the voice come out of me. And I felt my hands moving and I felt it was very hard not to say.

Lindsay:

Uh, wow. Eric, I, that is incredible that it shows a, an advanced mastery of the screaming techniques. And I, I am just so happy for you. I'm so happy for that journey for you. or Matt, would you like to share the sound that you thought of?

Kate:

Yeah. So I was, I was transported back to my childhood and, uh, it was the sound of. When you, when you slaughter a chicken, um, and all the other chickens in the coop are aware that one of their family members has been killed and they sort of erupt into this kind of flocking, very

Lindsay:

yes. Yes.

Kate:

melodic, but almost like percussionist style, uh, squawking,

Matt:

cool.

Kate:

um,

Lindsay:

Yeah. Yes. Um, and what, what did that bring, did that bring up anything for you, Kate?

Kate:

um,

Eric:

Uh,

Kate:

paying pretty much, most of the emotions from my childhood, I feel like are encompassed in that story. Um,

Lindsay:

That's incredible. It's incredible. And I think we all are familiar with the sound. Um, thank you so much for sharing that. Uh, and, and Matt, what about you?

Matt:

um, well, my, my sound was, um, animal related as well. Um, I thought of, uh, in the Depot. The mantis shrimp uses a punch to stun its prey and, uh, or enemies that attack it. And it does so by, uh, punching the water in front of it so hard that it flashed boils and creates a cavity in the water. And it can, it can create so much for so much energy that when that bubble collapses, there's sometimes even a flash of light, uh, that, that science is still working to this day to under.

Lindsay:

Wow. Wow. Incredible. Um,

Kate:

that's called a Bantus shrimp.

Matt:

shrimp.

Thea:

Yeah.

Kate:

to get

Lindsay:

Incredible. Um, that is, it is incredible

Matt:

You're going to want to reinforce the tank if, uh,

Kate:

okay. I have a

Thea:

do punch,

Kate:

grade. Oh, sorry. Go ahead, Kelly.

Thea:

no, they do punch through aquarium shrimp. You should ask John about it.

Kate:

Oh, great. This is a topic first talked about.

Matt:

um,

Lindsay:

well,

Matt:

just took me to a place of realizing how limited human understanding is and how vast and varied nature is in all of this.

Lindsay:

That's a fascinating takeaway. Um, and you know, I think he think that with the right screaming practice, you may be able to gain insights into the world, um, that, you know, uh, our common science or what we would call medicine. I have not been able to achieve. So I just thank you all for that beautiful exercise. Um, that was truly wonderful. Wonderful to experience.

Thea:

Thank you Lindsey for bringing your light.

Lindsay:

Absolutely.

Kate:

also really helpful. We can. Document that maybe not the exact examples. Um, just because Eric, it hasn't been announced yet that you're actually going to be a speaker at the Midwest annual

Lindsay:

ah, Hmm.

Kate:

Well, I mean, we have to wrap up pretty soon, Lindsay, but anything final you want to leave us with? I think you're scheduled to come in. We're starting what? Eight 30 tomorrow.

Lindsay:

Yes, that would be, um, I believe I had requested 3:00 AM, but I was shot down.

Matt:

The at the building, doesn't let us open that.

Lindsay:

yes. So I suppose eight 30. We'll do, um, I request that everyone come hydrated.

Matt:

Oh yeah. Uh, what about food? We're going to be in here for two to three.

Lindsay:

Yes again, I'm in a more advanced training. Your spiritual energy would sustain you. Um, but Califia has informed me that again, we are, are not at that place. Um, so,

Matt:

got folks on my team who, you know, have they, they have blood sugar issues, so they, they need to run.

Lindsay:

uh,

Thea:

Totally heard and understand we are going to provide catering, um, for the event so that we can have lunch. Um, and also as an additional incentive to some folks who leave reviews of one women show. You know, who, who don't feel onboard for this practice? Um, we are, the marketing team is covering it. It is from deans, uh, as everybody knows the most prominent restaurant in town, um, and particularly the number one grub hub order from certain teams. So, um,

Lindsay:

Yes.

Thea:

take that information as you may.

Lindsay:

yes, I.

Kate:

glad we collect all that data on our employees

Lindsay:

I would normally find the provision of food to be an affront, to the screaming practice. Um, but Califia has assured me that this will enhanced the participation. So I have made the exception.

Thea:

and we are, and I just wanna make sure. Uh, Kate you're aware of this, that we are using the lactation room to put Lindsey in while we are eating. Um, so she can be blind, folded, folded, and in complete darkness while we are eating. So it doesn't disrupt her ability to teach.

Lindsay:

Yes. Absolutely. Thank you. Califia for that.

Kate:

okay. Well, have any lactating mothers right now, but in the future, just keep me posted as you did. Well, okay, Lindsey, thank you so much. Uh, if you need anything else in the next day, you know where to find us, we all have offices with our names on them and yeah, I guess we'll see you bright and early tomorrow or early

Matt:

Some of us well,

Lindsay:

I am. I am looking forward to this immensely. Thank you all for being so open to this life-changing experience.

Kate:

Thank you. I'm going to stop the recording.

Ben:

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